Line 6 Helix Guitar Effects..

Mark Badham posted this 14 June 2015

Line 6 are taking the guitar effects HD series a step further with the new helix guitar effects unit. I have played through the HD500X unit (which is superb), it's just the cost of the new Helix over £1000?!!!... oh well I suppose if it produces the goods why not?.. I'm just thinking with Boss and TC Electronic along with many others are sure to follow... guitar effects could soon to be out of reach with more tech advances?

By the way I still use a Boss ME50 Multi/FX...

Question is what price would you pay for that perfect tone?...

Fretmagic6

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robert poyser posted this 16 June 2015

You wouldn't think twice about paying out $1000 on a decent guitar amp and that amp would have a limited tone and effects range. The only time you would think twice is if you were financially challenged for new gear.

This type of kit from Boss GT100 through to Lin 6 helix and above are Sole Place where your sound comes from and should be amplified via a neutral amp and a guitar amp is far from that, you need something like powered PA speakers. and a pair of those at 800 WATT a Each start at $700.

Boss GT100 = $500 and powered PA speakers cost $500............ total $1000 not bad for a good quality versatile rig Line 6 $1000 and $1000 for top quality powered PA speakers .............Total $2000 also not bad for a pro quality versatile rig

Great gear has never been so cheap. Yes $1000 plus is quite a bit of money, and a stretch for some, but should be in the reach of most serious musicians.

I have a Boss GT100 & a Roland GR55 (guitar synth) through Powered PA (as my personal back line) and a year on I'm still smiling ever time I hear the sound ($2000) I'm armature and Play in a band for fun!.

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Chromaticlord posted this 17 June 2015

1 penny and thats too damn much.as that rober poser guy says hes smiling but i bet his audience isnt.on a serious note think of the tone you could achieve if you had the hands of blackmore gilmour clapton moore bonamassa young lynch.lukather etc etc.

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Levi Clay posted this 17 June 2015

I'd spend that all day long!

The only concern here is it not matching up to the real big boy competitors like the AxeFX or the Kemper - thought they're in the £2000 price range

Amps and effects craft your tone more than those Gibsons that everyone over the age of 40 insists on having, so why not spend as much or more there?

It's one of those things, you don't know a good guitar until you play one. You don't know good tone until you hear it, and we've all heard it. It can be immensely frustrating when you play and no matter what you do you can't sound like that, especially as you don't know why. Now I'm not saying that money is the answer, but quality is. And 95% of the time, quality isn't cheap!

We'll have one in for review soon though!

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robert poyser posted this 18 June 2015

The cost problem is the law of diminishing returns.

And when you play live you get to a point where the extra quality in the sound starts to get lost in the venue acoustics, and then again the average audience couldn't tell the difference anyway. Normal its other musicians that can tell the high end product from the mid-range and that mainly in a studio.

Cheap gear is it really worth it, as you’ll get disgruntled and change it and after 3 or 4 changes you could have bought some reasonable mid-range gear in the first place.

The advantage of the gear I posted above, is -It's lighter than guitar amp rigs. -It's a higher output 800watt x 800watt; ok for gigs up to a 1000 or so people. (above that the main PA does that) -I can keep my sound at any volume, at home in my bedroom, in a pub or live on stage, with no knobs needing a tweak. -Reasonable cost. for what you get. -versatile and instant tonal & effect setups.

It's hard to strike the quality affordability balance.

@Cringatichord (see I can dig too) My audience can tell the difference between songs as they don’t all sound the same. And if you’re not happy with your style and performance you don’t need another guitarists fingers, you need some LL’s DVD’s

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Music Man posted this 18 June 2015

I have heard Chromaticlord play and believe me he doesn't need any LL dvds, he has the tone and technique.

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robert poyser posted this 18 June 2015

[quote=Jamie M;110891]I have heard Chromaticlord play and believe me he doesn't need any LL dvds, he has the tone and technique.[/quote]

So why the comment about having some else's fingers, be proud of what you play.... me I still need some of the LL DVD's a few rough corners that need fixing

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Music Man posted this 18 June 2015

He was joking about the hands thing, just trying to put some humour into a bland thread

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Chromaticlord posted this 18 June 2015

What i was saying is a lot of the tone is in the fingers so all this expensive gear is ok in its place you can have the best gear in the buisness if you can afford it but it's not going to make you sound better.my advice would be learn the guitar a bit more before you shell out on expensive gear unless your at the playing style of doing tours.as for me needing ll dvd yeah sure theres always something for me to learn.but i see so many people with so good gear you ask them to play and they sound bad even with a 10 grand rack unit.

I dont need any guitarist fingers im proud of what i play thanks and i play many styles from rock n roll to blues to metal i dont just stick to one kind of style that would make you pretty boring i think.come on lighten up this forum has lost its humour why so serious all the time.

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robert poyser posted this 18 June 2015

Fully agree Chromaticord.

70% technique 10% guitar 20% sound.

In my sordid past, I've played in a Jazz orchestra, country band, rock band, a spot spell in a reggae band, even a punk band. and yes I have learned something from each experience, I write better, I have a wider skill base I can mix up to make my playing more interesting.

I had a rhythm guitarist in a band, who's lead was lifeless, a few technique tips and his playing took on a bit of life, he now verbratos when he sustains, he now (thank god) bends in key, he phrases ..... no longer just high speed random notes from the scale. and as you say you can change the sound of a run by varying your technique and his amp somehow sounds better :-) I'll work on my sweep picking myself and pass that on too....

It's still nice to have great gear....

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Mark Badham posted this 18 June 2015

[quote=LickLibrary Levi;110887]I'd spend that all day long!

The only concern here is it not matching up to the real big boy competitors like the AxeFX or the Kemper - thought they're in the £2000 price range

Amps and effects craft your tone more than those Gibsons that everyone over the age of 40 insists on having, so why not spend as much or more there?

It's one of those things, you don't know a good guitar until you play one. You don't know good tone until you hear it, and we've all heard it. It can be immensely frustrating when you play and no matter what you do you can't sound like that, especially as you don't know why. Now I'm not saying that money is the answer, but quality is. And 95% of the time, quality isn't cheap!

We'll have one in for review soon though![/quote]

Yep I agree Levi it's all about quality... if it's not cheap it means taking the credit card to the max and working overtime!!! to pay for what you feel is quality both in tone and guitars...

Fretmagic6

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Mark Badham posted this 22 August 2015

Having seen the Helix reviews it looks and sounds amazing...hope Guitar Interactive do a review soon....wonder how Boss will compete with Line 6.. knowing Boss they always produce great multi fx it's got be special to beat or match the Helix!!!!...

Fretmagic6

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